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Response — 1 September 2026

Who Did the Viewing?

On 1 September 2026 Andrew Drummond published a reply to this site's response, which he describes as a “15,000-word AI-assisted ramble”. It repeats the existing allegations and adds several new ones. It is also the most useful thing he has published, because of four statements he makes about himself.

Four Positions, Six Weeks

Who actually handled this material?

The new article states that neither he nor Adam Howell will need “the protection of ‘journalism’” because “all viewing has been handled by those with authority to do so.”

That is a clean answer to the question this site has been asking since July. It is also his fourth answer to it. Here is the whole sequence, in his own words, in date order.

26 July 2026andrew-drummond.com

Here (below) are scans of Bryan Flowers Telegram accounts. Considerable other material has been obtained including images. No laws have been broken in the process. [...] These are two of many scans taken over two years.

First account, 26 July: he personally obtained considerable Telegram material over two years and certifies it as lawfully obtained.

28 July 2026andrew-drummond.com

The investigation had to stop there. It is illegal to join these groups. [...] LEGAL NOTE: No laws were broken conducting this research.

Second account, 28 July: says he stopped short of joining any group because it is illegal, then separately certifies no laws were broken obtaining what is shown.

8 August 2026Facebook comment, deleted within hours

we sat on those for long time

Fourth account, between the second and third: a deleted Facebook comment says the allegations were sat on for a long time, which requires having had them — at odds with the third account's claim that only authorities viewed anything.

1 September 2026andrew-drummond.com

Neither the author, nor Adam Howell [...] will need to seek the protection of 'journalism' as all viewing ha been handled by those with authority to do so.

Third account, 1 September: now says neither he nor Howell did any viewing at all, contradicting the first two accounts of obtaining and being shown material directly.

Read them together and the questions answer themselves. If all the viewing was done by people with authority, who spent two years taking the scans? Who “obtained” the images? What, exactly, did he sit on for a long time — and how does a person sit on material he never had?

These are not four descriptions of one thing from different angles. They are four different things. Material obtained by him is not material viewed only by authorities. Sitting on it is not passing it straight to police. A source embedded for two years is not a hands-off referral.

The 1 September version is the first that would place him beyond criticism, and it arrives last — after this site set out, on 27 July, what the law says about collecting and publishing material of this kind. A position adopted only after the difficulty is pointed out, and irreconcilable with three earlier accounts, is not a clarification.

He is not accused of anything here. He is quoted. Every one of those five statements is his, is dated, and was published by him.

Volunteered

He helped Howell relocate

Establishing his own disinterest, the article says he takes no payment, has spent his own money, and helped Adam Howell relocate safely.

Consider what that sentence describes. Adam Howell was convicted of criminal defamation by a Thai court on 28 August 2025. Three further criminal cases and one civil case remain outstanding against him in Thailand, two of the criminal charges concerning the making of false accusations to police. He left for Dubai while those matters were live.

The author now says he helped with that relocation, and offers it as evidence of his good character. It is difficult to think of a clearer statement of the relationship between the two men — and it is not the relationship of a journalist to a source.

Consider also who was helping whom. Adam Howell is not a man short of money. He raised a reported thirteen million dollars in the SuperDoge token, which reached that market capitalisation within forty-eight hours of launch and is now worth effectively nothing. He demanded 155 million baht from Bryan Flowers. Whatever else is in dispute, nobody has suggested he lacked the fare to Dubai.

Andrew Drummond, in the same article, presents himself as the opposite: a man who takes no payment, who has spent his own money on this, and who helped fund another man's relocation out of his own pocket.

That does not fit together. A journalist without means does not pay to move a wealthy source beyond the reach of the courts hearing that source's cases. If Howell needed the money he would be the poorer man, and he plainly is not. If he did not need it, the payment was not charity, and the question of what it actually was becomes unavoidable.

And consider who was doing the helping. Andrew Drummond carries two Thai criminal defamation convictions of his own, both suspended, from before he left Thailand in January 2015. There are defamation claims outstanding against him now that he has never answered, and a Thai court has ordered his websites blocked inside the country.

There is also a warrant for his arrest in Thailand, in a defamation matter. This site states one, because one is what it can confirm. Bryan Flowers understands there to be more than one; until each is confirmed individually, only the confirmed warrant is asserted here. That is the standard this site applies to itself, and it is the standard the articles it answers do not apply at all.

Provenance. The warrant is stated on Bryan Flowers' account and is verifiable through his Thai counsel by any court, police force or journalist with a proper interest. This site does not publish the document itself, and says so rather than implying a filing it has not put in front of readers. If Andrew Drummond's position is that no such warrant exists, that is a matter he can settle in one sentence, and it will be published here in full.

So the position is this. A man subject to a Thai arrest warrant, who left the country in 2015 carrying two criminal defamation convictions and has answered none of the claims brought against him since, has now stated in public that he helped another convicted man leave that same jurisdiction while his cases were live — and paid towards it out of his own pocket, while describing himself as unpaid. He is not a disinterested observer of Thai legal process. He is a participant in it, on the wrong side of it, assisting somebody else to the same side.

Two Accounts

He says he was not paid. His source says he was.

The article states that he does not accept payment for investigating public complaints. Adam Howell, in Facebook Messenger exchanges published here in full, wrote this:

“I paid him extra to drag Bryan's family and friends into it”

“I can't afford to pay Drummond anymore, he says he did it cheap because he's been after Bryan for years”

This site does not need to resolve which man is telling the truth, and does not attempt to. Both accounts are published, and they cannot both be right. One of the two people at the centre of this campaign is not being straight about how it was funded.

One precision, stated here because this site states it everywhere: Howell separately wrote “I told him I will give him a percent”. That is future tense — an offer, not a completed payment — and no percentage was ever paid, because no payout ever materialised. The payment stated in the past tense is the one for reaching the family.

Motive

Both men have now given the same reason

The article says he dislikes foreigners with media companies in Pattaya, and that he has previously exposed several of them.

Adam Howell, in writing, years earlier:

“he says he did it cheap because he's been after Bryan for years, he hates him owning a media company”

Two sources on opposite sides of this dispute, years apart, giving the same explanation — and one of them is the man himself. Until 1 September the motive was an inference this site drew. It is now an admission.

There is a difficulty with that, and it is a simple one. Bryan Flowers does not own The Pattaya News. He has no legal ownership of it and no involvement in it. The Thai side of the publication is run by his wife, who is one of its owners. He does not own it, does not run it, and has no say in what it publishes.

So the grievance Andrew Drummond has now put in writing is aimed at a media company that belongs to somebody else. Nineteen months of publication about a named private individual, and the asset at the centre of it is not his.

The Method

“Ai came back with this”

The article's central new proof is an identification, and the method used to make it is stated plainly: he put the question to an AI, and reports that “Ai came back with this”.

The same article dismisses this site's response as a “15,000-word AI-assisted ramble”. AI assistance is apparently disqualifying when used to answer an allegation and probative when used to make one.

A language model is not a forensic instrument. It has no access to account registration data, device identifiers, IP history or post revision logs. It produces plausible text about what it is shown. Nothing it returns can establish who operated an account.

He writes that impersonation would be “Impossible” because it would require taking over an account and backdating a message. That is an argument about what records would show — and the records are held by the platforms, not by him. He has produced none of them.

The Chain

It breaks at the first link

His identification runs in three steps:

  1. a post on the adult-industry forum GFY.com, under a handle he renders as “Asian Panties”;
  2. that post, he says, asks for replies to a Telegram account;
  3. that Telegram account, he says, is Bryan Flowers.

The first step is wrong, and everything after it falls with it. Neither the GFY.com account nor the post is Bryan Flowers'. He did not create that account, did not write that post, and has never used that handle.

Once that is so, the rest is arithmetic. A post that is not his cannot demonstrate which Telegram account is his — however confidently the inference is drawn, and however many times an AI is asked to confirm it.

A note on the handle, made once. This site has consistently refused to publish any Telegram identifier — not the impostor accounts and not Bryan Flowers' own — for the reasons given in the editorial note. Drummond has now published the account he attributes to Bryan Flowers, in full and repeatedly, so naming it once here in order to deny it adds nothing to its circulation. The account @somchaibusiness is not Bryan Flowers' account. He has one Telegram account; its username is identical to his LINE username, chosen when he opened both applications, never changed on either, and open today. It is not that handle, and it can be verified through his lawyers by any police force, platform or court with a proper interest. That is the only place this site will print it; the redaction rule stands everywhere else.

Precision

What the court actually decided about Punnipa Flowers

The article states that she “recruited girls” and was jailed for three years for running an illegal business. The accurate position has three parts, and this site gives all three — including the two that are less convenient than a flat denial would be.

  • She was acquitted of the serious trafficking charges. That was the determination of the judges who heard the evidence. Andrew Drummond reported that acquittal himself, and this site records his having done so as correct — Claim 20 on the July response page, marked CONFIRMED.
  • A separate and lesser first-instance verdict was returned, and it is under appeal. That has been recorded openly on this site since May 2026 at the Pattaya groups page. It is not a trafficking finding, and this site has never suggested it did not happen.
  • “Recruited girls” is false. She had no role in recruiting, managing or making decisions for the Soi 6 bars.

The word the article needs, and does not use, is trafficking. It reaches for a lesser verdict that is under appeal and presents it as though it vindicated the accusation the court rejected. Those are different findings about different things, and the difference is the whole point.

Checkable

The SRA claim, and our own correction

The article states that Defamation Guard Law was exposed as a scam by the UK Solicitors Regulation Authority in July 2026.

The SRA publishes its scam alerts openly and monthly at sra.org.uk. Searches of that index and of the regulator's site return no alert naming Defamation Guard Law or its domain. This site states that as the result of a search rather than as proof that no such alert exists, because a negative search is not proof. He is invited to produce the alert. It would take one link.

On the underlying point, this site made its own correction before he raised it, and repeats it here rather than waiting to be pushed. On 29 July 2026, wording across this site describing Defamation Guard Law as Bryan Flowers' legal counsel was corrected sitewide. It is a defamation-enquiry website that he promotes. It is not his solicitor and does not review this site's content. He is represented in the Thai proceedings by Thai counsel; no UK solicitor is currently instructed; the two UK Pre-Action Protocol Letters of Claim were served by Cohen Davis Solicitors.

A final instance of that old wording survived the sweep in a contact-form message and was removed on 2 September 2026. It is recorded here because this site logs its own errors rather than waiting to be caught.

Still Unanswered

He replied to the page without answering it

The article is a direct response to this site. He read the page, characterised it, and answered it — which is the right of reply he has never once offered before publishing, in nineteen months.

Having taken it, he addressed none of the following.

  • His own caption, conceding that one of his two published screenshots contains only “adult porn and drugs groups” and no such material at all.
  • The AHTD letter's provenance — published here in full on 11 June 2026, six weeks before he described the same document as a police leak.
  • The ten questions. Not one.
  • Why the handles do not match — now answered with an AI query rather than a platform record.
Right of Reply

Standing, and unchanged

Andrew Drummond is invited to answer four questions. They are not rhetorical, and any answer will be published here in full and unedited.

  1. If all viewing was handled by those with authority, who took the scans over two years, and what was it that you sat on?
  2. Will you produce the SRA alert you say exposed Defamation Guard Law in July 2026?
  3. Will you produce the GFY.com account records and post history that you say make impersonation impossible?
  4. Adam Howell wrote that he paid you, including extra to reach the family. You say you accept no payment. Which is it?

The ten questions put on 27 July also stand. None has been answered.

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