Drummond Invents Dollar Figures for Non-Existent Investors
On his “Behind the News in Thailand” Facebook page, Andrew Drummond publicly claimed in reply to a reader that Bryan Flowers “took one down for US$460,000” and that “another has invested more than that about Aus$1 million — can't pay back.” Both figures are fabricated. No investor has lost US$460,000. No investor put in AUS$1 million. Bryan has taken no external investment since 2018; all genuine investors are paid and continue to be paid. The only person publicly claiming to be an unpaid investor is Adam Howell — a convicted criminal defamer who has admitted in writing to paying Drummond to conduct this campaign (see /evidence/paid-to-troll).
The Facebook comment — verbatim screenshot
Below is the unedited screenshot captured from the thread on Drummond's “Behind the News in Thailand” Facebook page. A reader (Paul Berry) asked whether Bryan's investors get paid. Drummond (as page author) replied with invented dollar amounts. A follower (“Stronger MC Prospect Dazza”) then piled on with a racist generalisation about Thai people using “defamation of character” to escape debts — an echo of Drummond's own editorial style.
Each Dollar Figure — Fabricated
“he took one down for US$460,000”
What Drummond implies
That Bryan Flowers defrauded, or failed to repay, an investor to the tune of US$460,000 — and that this is common knowledge among a group of unnamed investors who have written it off as not worth challenging.
Fact
No such investor exists. No investor in any Flowers-associated business has lost US$460,000. Drummond's own articles have cited different numbers in the past — the figure changes with the audience, because it is invented. The only individual alleging non-payment is Adam Howell, whose claim is a civil commercial dispute affected by COVID, not a US$460,000 fraud. See Lie #65 and Position Papers #10, #45, #48.
“another has invested more than that about Aus$1 million. Can't pay back.”
What Drummond implies
That a second, anonymous investor placed approximately AUS$1,000,000 into one of Bryan's businesses and cannot get it back.
Fact
No individual has ever invested AUS$1,000,000 into any business Bryan is associated with. Bryan has taken no external investment since 2018; all subsequent business activity has been self-funded. Drummond produces no name, no contract, no timeline, no bank record — because there is none. See Lie #66.
Why Drummond Keeps Inventing Numbers
Specific dollar figures read as credible. A reader glancing at “US$460,000” is more likely to believe the allegation than a vague “he owes some investors.” The tactic relies on the observation Drummond himself admits in print: “he just needs one person to says its true and he don't check” (Adam Howell's own words in Messenger, documented at /evidence/paid-to-troll). There is no internal fact-check on these numbers because the commissioned-smear model does not include one.
The same pattern appears across the 21 documented articles: amounts, counts, dates and quotations shift between articles and between comments. Where Drummond has previously written about the “US$460,000” claim in an article, the context makes clear it is Adam Howell's civil dispute — not a roster of unpaid investors. The Facebook comment repackages a single contested figure into “all these investors” to make it sound like a pattern. It is not.
The only individual publicly alleging non-payment
Adam Howell. And Howell is:
- Convicted of criminal defamation on 28 August 2025 (Thai court, suspended sentence)
- Faces 3 further criminal cases plus 1 civil defamation case
- Fled Thailand to Dubai around February 2026 leaving 5–6 million baht in unpaid personal debts (including alleged harassment of his deceased business partner's sister)
- Has admitted in a Facebook Messenger conversation to paying Andrew Drummond to attack Bryan Flowers — including paying extra to drag family into it
- Cited by Drummond himself as his source: “we were contacted by Howell who unloaded his files” (andrew-drummond.com, 2 Dec 2025)
Every other person who invested in Bryan's businesses has been paid and continues to be paid. The claim that “all these investors” have been unpaid and have “written it off” is a rhetorical invention to lend false weight to a single convicted defamer's civil dispute.
Follower echo — a typical comment-thread pattern
Directly beneath Drummond's fabricated figures, a follower (“Stronger MC Prospect Dazza”) replied:
“Do the defamation of character. Thats a stupid but common to the thai to get out of debts they owe us”
The comment is (a) racist — generalising about Thai people as a group — and (b) substantively empty: “debts they owe us” refers to nothing specific. It is the kind of follower pile-on that Drummond's page cultivates and never moderates, and it illustrates the environment in which the fabricated numeric claims are given a sheen of community endorsement.
Related Documentation
Lie #65 — US$460,000 investor claim →
Fabricated figure, no such investor
Lie #66 — AUS$1M investor claim →
Fabricated figure, no such investor
Direct Admission Evidence →
Howell admits paying Drummond
Witness Intimidation →
Drummond's attacks on named civil-case witnesses
Adam Howell Profile →
The only individual alleging non-payment
Facebook Attack Archive →
47 documented Facebook screenshots
Andrew Drummond Profile →
14-year pattern of fabricated claims
Legal Framework →
UK Defamation Act 2013 / Malicious Communications Act 1988